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MeJew movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another AI-generated hoax by User:Jeaucques Quœure. #MeJew was a Sundance Film Festival panel and does not appear to be an actual movement or awareness campaign. Flounder fillet (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA Women's Futsal Euro 2025 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The term "UEFA Women's Futsal Euro 2025" was never officially used to designate the qualifiers, so the page should be deleted. Redirecting it could cause confusion, as it might imply that the 2025 edition refers to the qualifiers, which is incorrect.

Therefore, I believe the page redirect should be deleted.

Monolith Arms P-12 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable one off prototype of a gun; I can't find any coverage that meets GNG criteria, and the only sources are blog or forum posts. CoconutOctopus talk 20:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vels FC (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, shows no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SugarGh0st RAT (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. All the references are not reliable. Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice: I have added more references Arwenz (talk) 19:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Najma Thabsheera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG TheWikiholic (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:GNG Pass , has reliable sources, she is a national level women leader - Spworld2 (talk) 11:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Note to closing admin: Spworld2 (talkcontribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

The subject’s role as the national vice president of a state-level political party’s youth wing does not automatically meet the notability guidelines under WP:POL, regardless of gender. Furthermore, the available coverage primarily focuses on routine updates about her new positions within the party, which is typical for politicians and thus does not fulfill the criteria for WP:GNG. TheWikiholic (talk) 18:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a youth movement of a single party in a state but exists in more than one state [1][2] . Spworld2 (talk) 04:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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, [6] (Malayala Manorama). A article who is popular in Kerala as a Muslim woman has won the award. Also a well-known Muslim feminist in Kerala [7] [8][9]. She can be considered as an Advocate/Lawyer, she is one of the women lawyers in Kerala High Court [10] Office holder at Municipality / Taluk level [11] Reference [12] , [13] (The Hindu) and she can be considered Women in positions of power [14] [15] Influencer (Muslim women political influencer) in Kerala [16] [17] - Spworld2 (talk) 05:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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San Andreas: The Original Mixtape (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Both of the references in the article are dead links, and the most significant coverage I was able to find is in an article by Pitchfork ([18]) which has some sentences about the mixtape. Other than that, I was only able to find mentions such as [19]. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Young Maylay. toweli (talk) 18:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El aserradero 'La Helvecia', sito en la calle Colon 580, San Fernando, Argentina


La Helvecia sawmill (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:notability and verifiability – a search on google did not give any results about this sawmill (except some photographs uploaded to Commons by the creator of this article). I could not find any mention to this sawmill on San Fernando websites either. The article contains only one proper source. Fma12 (talk) 18:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could be redirected to San Fernando, Buenos Aires, Fma12 (talk) 19:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "proper source" is shown on Wikimedia Commons, and it is sufficiently detailed, to keep the article. Pedro Tamagni is mentioned in the lower half of the right column on page 2376 of the Boletín . NearEMPTiness (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
UAE Retail Benchmarking Study 2009 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I do not see enough notability.-- فيصل (talk) 18:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pilot major (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This stub has remained unsourced since 2013 and has remained a WP:DICDEF. A Google Books search finds several works that mention that such and such person was a "pilot-major" of an early modern European trade or exploration fleet, but no work defining or describing this title or occupation, which means that there is no basis for an encyclopedia article. Sandstein 14:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sources and additional info added. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, but I still don't see the basis for an article here. The lead sentences, which purport to define the topic, remain unsourced: "A pilot major or pilot-major is a chief navigator of a ship or fleet. This person is usually experienced in naval exploration and has distinguished himself as both a sailor and a voyager." What you did find a source for was the use of the same term in Spain for something different, namely, a government office with responsibility for cartography. What we now have is a list of people with a position we cannot define, and a description of an unrelated government office. That's not an article. Sandstein 13:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Seafood Bar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a minor chain of restaurants that fails to meet WP:NCORP. There are some restaurant reviews online, but no WP:SIGCOV, no evidence of awards won, or similar notable coverage. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wasta Faruq Kanarwey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLP of a Kurdish veteran, largely unsourced, lacking any clear indication of notability and based on related sources. Kurdish speakers may be able to find better sources. Mccapra (talk) 18:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perky Little Things (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no significant coverage from reliable sources for this game. Wombat Trap is a blog. Nintenderos, Nintendo Insider, and GoNintendo are unreliable sources reporting (mostly republishing) on the game's release. TheVideoGameLibrary and Kotaku entries are database sources that do not amount to significant coverage. The PlayAsia article is a primary press release. QuietCicada chirp 18:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joy Deep as Sorrow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A former redirect that's been reverted back into an article. I tried a WP:BEFORE search, but got a page full of lists of the songs on the album. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newark Venture Partners (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article is basically nothing but advertising copy and will need to be line-by-line rewritten if it is to be retained. Additionally, leaving aside press releases, I can find very little coverage of it in anything that could be called a reliable source. It gets passing mentions in articles about the NJ venture capital sector and reports on funding rounds in which it has participated, but actual focused coverage is very thin on the ground. Where it does exist, it tends to be puff pieces (often more about one of its partners than about the company itself (Example 1, Example 2)) or just short rephrasing of press releases by industry sites (E1, E2). These six links, by the way, constitute almost everything I could find on Google News about this company.

So from a combo of WP:TNT and dubious notability, I suggest deletion. AntiDionysius (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Natasha Mealey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, no evidence of WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 17:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - 'Your search - "Natasha Mealey" -wikipedia - did not match any news results.' - Google concurs about the lack of notability. --AntiDionysius (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Valery Zhakov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Retired Russian actor. WP:NACTOR significance is shown. The article was removed from Russian Wikipedia [30].--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maple Leaf (album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not demonstrate the significance of the album. Option: redirect to Valery Leontiev.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uvolit Zhoru (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The correspondence between WP:MOVIE is not shown and is extremely doubtful.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Fitz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significance was found for WP:NACTOR in the article.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Forget Me (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not demonstrate the significance of the song. Option: redirect to Valery Leontiev. --Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 15:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Centre de documentation collégiale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG, a WP:BEFORE search shows up primary sources, database entries and unreliable sources. CSD A7 objected as the subject "potentially comes under Educational Institutes" Lavalizard101 (talk) 15:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zoé Kézako (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Almost completely unsourced, heavily POV article. BEFORE showed no reviews or news. From what I can find, subject does not meet GNG. StartGrammarTime (talk) 15:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Avadh Girls' Degree College, Lucknow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sri Jai Narain Misra PG College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National P.G. College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV sources were found. I propose redirecting to University of Lucknow per WP:ATD, as the article fails to meet WP:NSCHOOL. GrabUp - Talk 15:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TVJ Singing Queens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm doubtful in this article, it is lack of references fails in WP:BANDMEMBER, citing a unreliable sources fails in WP:RS or can Redirect to Eat Bulaga since this article have high related on this topic. Royiswariii Talk! 15:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Osvaldinho (footballer, born 1945) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sign of notability. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Sebiba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and poorly sourced. The article was deleted last week and recreated by the same editor with some minor cosmetic changes (image in the infobox). M.Bitton (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

8 Clearwater Bay Road (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I proposed this for deletion with the reason "None of the sources are reliable, independent sources giving significant attention to this building. Databases, sources from companies related to the building, an apartment for sale... are not the sources needed to create an article on the apparently 3033rd highest building in the world. Are there indepth, non-routine, independent sources about this building? Its architecture, controversies, archaeological finds during construction, anything?"

Since then, the poorest sources have been removed, but nothing was done about the fundamental issues. If there is only routine coverage, unreliable sources, and database entries for this building, then it shouldn't have an article. Fram (talk) 14:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My vote is keep as of now. I'm seeing that you're probably concerned about the WP:TOOSOON criteria in this case. However, the article proposed for deletion can be expanded by other users in time. There is no need to tag it with a deletion notice yet. Other Hong Kong building articles such as Sino Plaza and The Westpoint can freely function as stubs when they are based on the same type of primarily database references until additional citations are found. Maybe the
type of tag is more fit in this situation. JeyReydar97 (talk) 15:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Somali literature without prejudice against a selective merge. Owen× 13:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Somali Corpus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No secondary source given for notability. A WP:BEFORE on Google Scholar gives this article that uses the corpus and gives a description of it. Otherwise, I can only find a passing mention and this article, which uses the corpus but doesn't go in-depth about it. It doesn't look like WP:GNG is met, although I am open to changing my mind if more sources come to light.

Noting that the original author has declared a COI with the subject. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:01, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was a pretty rudimentary stub. Now, a number of sources have been added that discuss the importance of such corpora of under-resourced languages, and of Somali resources in particular. Links have been added to this page. The lead has also been cleaned up to clarify what a corpus is and where Somali is spoken. LingLass (talk) 17:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! The issue wasn't about the lack of information or context in the lead, or about whether such corpora are important. To meet WP:GNG, sources should go in-depth about this specific corpus in particular, not about corpora in general. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe a better solution would be to move this to a page about Somali corpora in general, rather than focusing on this corpus in particular. I feel like there are now a number of other corpora for this language that together have some deeper coverage in the literature.LingLass (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That could indeed work! |Chaotic Enby]] (talk · contribs) 20:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
LingLass and Chaotic Enby, if you believe this article should be Merged or Redirected, please state that and provide a target article. Otherwise, this discussion is likely to close as a Soft Deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 07:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would tend to agree with LingLass about changing the scope of this page to Somali corpora in general as an alternative to deletion, which would be most likely to meet WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Navyug Kanya Mahavidyalaya (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reverted redirect. A WP:BEFORE search reveals sources about the University of Lucknow. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 13:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jade Sotomayor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No claim to notability; I redirected this to RuPaul's Drag Race season 1 but was reverted. Seeking wider consensus. TheLongTone (talk) 13:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weber-Maxwell electrodynamics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Page created by a new editor which was accepted at AfC in good faith by a reviewer who it appears does not have an extensive background in the science area. Following a brief discussion on the talk page, there are Toosoon, Notability, OR, NPOV and Dubious issues. Some more information added to AfD page. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Curtesy ping of @Johnjbarton, RangersRus, Jähmefyysikko, ReyHahn, and Cadaik:. As nominator I think there are multiple issues:

  1. WP:TOOSOON, the article is based upon a 2023 paper and a 2024 paper, where the 2024 paper is the only one that cites the 2023 paper.
  2. WP:N general lack of other sources to indicate that the neolism is notable.
  3. WP:OR large sections of the page are unsourced and appear to be original research by the editor.
  4. WP:NPOV page suggests that the approach is only relevant for low speeds, but fails to mention other issues. To quote from the abstract of the first source "Furthermore, the article shows that the modern formulation of Weber electrodynamics is clearly superior to standard electrodynamics in electrical engineering, because it not only eliminates internal contradictions, but also represents considerable simplification and compression." These hidden claims go far beyond what the text reveals.
  5. WP:DUBIOUS without being specific, the article models diffraction from an edge and two slits without stating that it is giving a new, unsourced interpretation of the classic wave–particle duality. This is stated more clearly at the end of the open source code referenced in the page " It is plausible to assume that such real classical forces might be the true cause of all quantum effects. For more on this topic, see https://doi.org/10.36227/techrxiv.23055584.v2". Wikipedia is not the place for such hidden claims. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ldm1954: Please remain objective. It is not relevant what you personally believes. There are convincing, comprehensible and unconcealed facts, evidence and simulation results.
I would now like to address the various points:
  1. WP:TOOSOON / WP:N: The two aspects are connected and cannot be denied. I have read the guidelines and it is true that it is too early for a self-standing article. I therefore suggest a merge into Weber electrodynamics.
  2. WP:NPOV "Furthermore, the article shows that the modern formulation of Weber electrodynamics is clearly superior to standard electrodynamics in electrical engineering, because it not only eliminates internal contradictions, but also represents considerable simplification and compression." The citation is from the abstract of one of the cited articles, which was published in a scientific journal and was apparently considered appropriate by the reviewers and the editors. This text cannot be found in the Wikipedia article. Where is neutrality violated when a source is cited?
  3. WP:OR: "large sections of the page are unsourced and appear to be original research by the editor." This should be explained in more detail.
  4. WP:DUBIOUS: Your raised objections do not refer to the Wikipedia page. The Wikipedia page shows examples of interference and diffraction from a classical point of view, where an electromagnetic wave is emitted by a dipole antenna and then reflected by a barrier of secondary dipoles. This is a common model. The source code is publicly available and cited. The preprint which you mention is not cited on the Wikipedia page and can be found only at the very end on https://github.com/StKuehn/OpenWME. The preprint is there only linked as an interesting side note. Specifically, the website says "... this example exceeds the usual field of application of electrical engineering considerably. It is an interesting by-product which arose during the development ..." The vast majority of the examples on https://github.com/StKuehn/OpenWME verify the predictions of Weber-Maxwell electrodynamics by means of known classical effects. This ensures that not only the theoretical derivation is correct (this is performed by mathematical proofs), but also that the practical results are convincing.
Cadaik (talk) 14:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge We have many, many instances where a newish peer-reviewed primary source is cited in support of one aspect of a notable topic. However in such cases the amount and breadth of the content needs to be in proportion to the impact of the source which in this case is very limited. The actual impact is the only thing that matters, not the potential, truthfulness, wonderfulness etc. I don't think this topic is bogus though a brief look at the cited authors other work leads me to think they have limited background outside of computational EM. Therefore I don't expect this topic to grow into something significant. In any case I would encourage @Cadaik to contribute to existing articles with more focus on reviews and secondary sources to get a feel for Wikipedia-ness. Johnjbarton (talk) 16:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Run-of-the-mill predatory/payday lender. "Reviews" are indiscriminate WP:SPIP with no meaningful content. Wikipedia is not the place to host brochures. No indication of any independent coverage, in-depth in reliable sources, in fact there's barely anything beyond the SPIP and the routine "I got predatory loaned to" that all of these have, which, while sad, are not great sources for encyclopedic content. Alpha3031 (tc) 11:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Based on significant coverage that requires evaluation of the product, analysis, overview, survey, and commentary of the journalist and analysts, I found three long-reads by the leading Canadian newspaper, the Global News, which provide significant coverage per WP CORPDEPTH. [34] This one offers the journalist’s in-depth analysis of Spring Financial's business practices, focusing on their "secured savings loans" product. The coverage includes detailed descriptions of the terms and conditions of Spring Financial's loans, including specific details about interest rates (the journalist checked the contract and numbers shared by the unhappy client). It has a high level of evaluation and analysis. Here is a small part of the article with the reporters doing their job: The loan agreement reviewed by Global News does not provide for a so-called “cooling-off” period, a short period of time during which applicants are allowed to request that the contract they signed be voided. In British Columbia, where Canada Drives is based, such a provision is mandatory for payday lenders, which must allow borrowers to cancel a loan by the end of the next day in which they are open for business. There is also a professor at York University’s Osgoode Hall Law School, commenting on the issue. Of course the personal story is not important by itself, but it’s not a blog or someone interviewed, it’s a real journalistic job. Another two articles [35], [36] have also comprehensive coverage that goes beyond trivial mentions, providing a thorough description, evaluation, comparison with other companies, and analysis of Spring Financial's products and business practices.--RodrigoIPacce (talk) 12:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Darren Johnson (darts player) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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non-notable darts player All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please, see the response below: This article was poorly sourced indeed, unfortunately Darts Database website was shut down, hence those links do not work any more. More links and available references have been provided, this player was (and will be) participating in World Championships and major PDC tournaments, I do not think marking him non-notable is fair here. DarthBob (talk) 21:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The additional sources do not contain IRS SIGCOV and/or are routine (e.g. match recaps). Articles from PDC or WDF are not independent. We really want sources that provide SIGCOV of the player's background. JoelleJay (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is better sourced and up to date than half of the Wikipedia pages now, it is basically impossible to find any old sources, since darts are a sport, whose media coverage improved only in last years. Darts is quite a simple sport, articles analysing a match throw by throw just does not exist. This seems yet again like an on-going battle against darts articles and profiles, even an effort to improve these articles is not welcomed and a valuable article marked to delete. DarthBob (talk) 19:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If there isn't significant coverage of players in the past, then those players by definition are not notable. GNG requires sources with IRS SIGCOV, not just reliable sources. JoelleJay (talk) 01:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Indy Indie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a substub which could in theory be merged/redirected to Economy of Indianapolis#Retail trade, but which doesn't appear to have sustained and independent sigcov to even justify that. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 11:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Holographic direct sound printing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article based upon a 1 month old paper. While it has minor attention in pop science press, its Altmetric of 76 is not particularly high (it would need 200-300). Page is almost completely promo of research from a single group at Concardia University. Considering how active additive manufacturing currently is, much much more is required. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your science. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not my science. I found about this method of 3D printing in the newspapers and I thought it probably deserves to be mentioned at Wikipedia. Arwenz (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Unsure - for me the difficulty is that this is WP:TOOSOON (yes I know that's an essay that's not about scientific research, it just seems appropriate) so we don't know how much lasting importance there is about this discovery. I think an argument can be made for !keep given it has been peer reviewed, !delete because it is really just a small number of scientists saying it is important or !draft on the basis it might soon be shown to be important. I'm not sure how to parse it. JMWt (talk) 13:47, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: it is very, very rare to have articles just because they are reviewed, we require extensive secondary sources. TOOSOON is very commonly applied to scientific research. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rouba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLP of a singer-songwriter, largely unsourced, who seems to have turned their hand to many things in life without being clearly notable for any of them. The Arabic article isn’t any help with sourcing unfortunately. Mccapra (talk) 11:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, does not seem to be anything to support any claim of notability. As noted, largely unsourced. And in at least one case, tagged as such for a decade. I'd copyedit this lump of vaimglorious guff to the bone if I didn't think it was clearly headed for the exit.TheLongTone (talk) 13:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iain Rawlinson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bio of a successful businessman who does not appear to me to be notable. Somewhat promotional in tone, it recounts ROTM career moves but does not seem to be anything more than a piece of PR. Mccapra (talk) 11:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars: Crosscurrent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Current article fails notability guidelines, WP:NBOOK, WP:GNG. On the New York Times bestseller list but I couldn't find a review from a reliable source. Screen Rant article has what I would consider a passing mention: [37] Suggesting a redirect to List of Star Wars books as an alternative to deletion if no review or other piece of significant coverage is found. Mika1h (talk) 10:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per nom. Could not find anything anywhere. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Humiston family murders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tragic, but fails WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TOOSOON. If in future this somehow is covered in depth long term we can recreate it. CoconutOctopus talk 09:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete familicides very rarely fulfill NEVENT, and when they do it's usually obvious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Land of Skulls (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I draftified this article because I don't believe it meets NFILM. However, the newbie creator Cassigad (talk · contribs) reverted my draftification, leaving me no choice but to take it to AFD. I wanted to give them a chance to improve it and submit it for review, but they were too hasty in moving it to the main NS.

Fwiw, the director of this film Farhan Rana Rajpoot has been active on Wikipedia in the past, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Farhan Rana Rajpoot/Archive and has edited using several accounts, all of which are globally locked. They have repeatedly attempted to create a BLP about themselves at Farhan Rana Rajpoot and I wouldn’t be surprised if Cassigad is a new sock of Farhan Rana Rajpoot. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose: Sir, I don't have any link with him nor do I know him, how do I know who he is and whose account he has and what is his name?
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Josenid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After reviewing this BLP, I don't think it meets the criteria for either WP:NSINGER or GNG. WP:SIGCOV requires high quality references with proper bylines. --Pitille02 (talk) 07:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World Statesmen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The references used in the article only provide short descriptions. toweli (talk) 14:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mexican auto insurance (tourist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While this page maybe helpful, I think it fails WP:NOTGUIDE. Wikipedia isnt here for helping tourists. That's what Google is for. Plus, we don't have other articles talking about this specific type of insurance in other countries. Some of the information over here maybe suitable to add to the page vehicle insurance in the United States JuniperChill (talk) 13:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also going to add that due to the fact its been prodded before, a soft delete isn't possible. JuniperChill (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BenchWarmers DVD Magazine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find any coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 12:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dror Paley (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No independent article which discuss about the subject in depth, fails WP:GNG. doesn’t received any special achievement or any prestigious award. TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Misaki Uemura (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of significant and independent coverage. Nothing in ja:wiki either, and extremely weak claim to notability having played 1 game in Japan's second league. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shogo Yoshizawa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant and independent sources whatsoever, including in ja:wiki. Therefore no indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs that retell a work of literature (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While this is impressively referenced, it has major problems. First of all is the scope - what is "retelling"? This term is not linked, nor defined. Effectively this is a very broad "list of song that have some connection to the literary work of fiction". The list is grossly incomplete when we consider religious works - it includes only a dozen or so songs that mention Bible, but I am sure we could find tens of thousands, plus more for Koran, Buddhist texts, etc. And then we come to the elephant in the room, which is the ORish nature of this (i.e. failure of WP:NLIST - is there a similar list in a RS? I don't see much, although I noticed this listicle from The Guardian in the sources: [38]). Note that it uses the term inspired (so.... "list of songs inspired by works of literature"?). Again, the super broad criteria is a problem. Is this about retelling, or being inspired, or what? Is any song that mentions a literary work or character to be included? This is just a gigantic list of trivia, I am afraid. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now Autumn 2008 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An IP address recently tried to redirect this, and was reverted. A notability tag is on the article. A WP:BEFORE search proved fruitless. An AfD discussion needs to be had. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 07:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. OXYLYPSE (talk) 15:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Only one press release mentioning this...whatever it is...could be found. As for the parent company, I can find websites and database entries for several entities named In4, but it's not clear any of them have any connection to the In4 in the article. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yusuke Tanahashi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Very far from meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 68 minutes in Japan' second league. No significant and independent coverage, including in ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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El Taiger (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can't find any significant coverage from independent and reliable sources.

the topic of the article seems not to comply with WP:SINGER, not WP:WEB, and just looking at the page shows that it also lacks WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to comply with WP:GNG Pitille02 (talk) 05:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There is significant coverage. There is a BBC article [39]. There is also coverage before death, in 2022, for instance [40][41][42] He seems a prominent artist. BilboBeggins (talk) 07:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC source is about his death, while the others are press releases about an album and tour. Not significant independent coverage. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 16:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need the sources and significabt coverage to be before death of a person. BBC article has significant coverage, it has biography. There are also Cuban sources feom before his death. BilboBeggins (talk) 08:29, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1899–1900 Staffordshire Senior Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Individual season for local league, fails WP:GNG, WP:N, and WP:FOOTBALL, no significant coverage and nothing remarkable that merits inclusion of this particular season in comparison with other seasons which don't have articles Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:09, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dipali Goenka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. Also, the entire page is dominated by company references, while her personal references are limited to either WP:ROUTINE or WP:ADMASQ. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment There has been some misleading promotionalism in this article: in Recognition it said "Forbes magazine named her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia and the 4th in India in 2016", but she was listed 16th in a list which explicitly states "this list -- which is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking". (I've edited this). This suggests that all sourcing needs very careful checking. PamD 08:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I’m not going to waste my time and yours with a detailed analysis of the made up in one day award and passing mentions. Suffice to say that she’s not notable. We’ve seen a lot of those pages, but in 2024 everyone knows we are not a free website listing everyone who runs a large business. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep i am sorry but she is not the run of the mill businesswoman. She heads world’s one the largest textile companies. Forbes ranked her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia. She has represented India at various international forums, including Harvard India and the World Economic Forum, and has chaired and served on the boards of major organizations. Agree with you and the page nomination about the promotional language in the article. Thus made significant improvements and removed promotional content/language and unnecessary sources and added more sigcov sources. There are lots of sources on google·Also created lawsuit for neutrality.she passes WP:GNG.Ashwithride (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Forbes lists her as the 16th, alphabetically, in a list of 50 most powerful women in Asia which explicitly says that it "is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking" (even if a Forbes India writer seems to misunderstand this). I corrected the statement in the "Recognition" section, but hadn't noticed that it was also misprepresented in the lead, which I have now corrected. The enthusiasm which some editors have for misrepresenting this listing makes one cautious about other claims, which should all be very carefully checked. PamD 13:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that User:Ashwithride created the article and appears not to have edited any other articles in en.wiki since creating their account on 9 July 20204. PamD 13:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that, in parallel, There was an attempt to remove controversies from Welspun Living's page on 13 February 2024, Welspun Corp's page got updated on 24 May 2024, Welspun Group name changed to Welspun World, and page got updated too on 12 June 2024; Dipali Goenka's page created on 10 July 2024, Welspun Enterprises' page created on 14 October 2024. Most of these pages are flagged for conflicts of interest, making it appear as if this year is especially focused on Welspun activity on Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Natasha Tambudzai Mncube (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article relies on a very limited number of sources, primarily one cited article and a reference to Britannica. Many key details, such as her participation in "Big Brother The Chase" in 2013, her origin, and her personal history, are uncited. A WP:BEFORE search brought nothing out, and the article reads more like a promotional profile than an encyclopedic entry. The article fails to meet WP:GNG. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 04:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The supposed reference to "Britannica" is in fact linked to the same Drum (SNL24) article as the first ref. So that there's only one source. It may be considered significant although based on an interview but I suppose it's not enough. The awards that she has apparently founded the Shining star Africa awards have received some coverage. Again, is that enough? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: I genuinely cannot find anything outside of the Drum source, despite a decent search. It is mainly about her (not just about the award with passing mentions). But it's WP:PRIMARY as it's 90% direct quotes from her with the other 10% being "She told the drum that..." and primary sources don't count towards notability per WP:BIO. Therefore, I don't believe she presently meets the requirements. MolecularPilot 05:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails GNG. Written like a PROMO. Wikibear47 (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Climate finance in the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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AI-generated redundant fork of Climate change policy of the United States sourced entirely to primary sources. Flounder fillet (talk) 00:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing this article, the first version had bullet point and errors in format that I thought was referred to AI format. I have changed the format. Netforcarbon (talk) 18:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Netforcarbon To be clear, did you use AI to write this article? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Raccoon not AI to write the article but I do have an AI review and format assistant. I also use an AI editor but the content is from my notes and reviews of other documents on the US commitments and outcomes pertaining to climate finance which is also within my profession. Netforcarbon (talk) 13:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I continued this discussion on your talk page. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was alerted to this from the WikiProject Climate Change talk page. I haven't looked at the actual content yet but in general, I am against creating such sub-sub-articles, which usually end up lingering with very low pageviews. Why not rather include some of this content as an example in the article climate finance? Or else within a U.S. specific climate change article like suggested above. Like Climate change policy of the United States or Climate change in the United States.
Also if WikiEdu or someone is organising a drive to create lots of these "climate finance" type articles for specific countries then please alert others through the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change (early on, not just at the end). Thanks to User:FULBERT for the recent alert.
Also, using Chat-GPT (or similar) for language polishing or for ideas for structuring the article is perfectly fine. Using it for actually up to date content generation might be flawed. I am curious to learn how (if) you used AI for this exercise? If done correctly and carefully there is nothing wrong with that. But you'd have to be able to detect hallucinations and wrong information while working with it. EMsmile (talk) 09:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EMsmile I did not use AI to write content but I do use AI for format and for the final review. I will go back to rewrite content. I appreciate the insight to the wikiworld and the community of editors! Excellence in information sharing and climate finance in the Unites States is relevant and needs its own place of explanations that ultimately lead to the transparency of climate actions pertaining to financing. Netforcarbon (talk) 13:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, welcome to Wikipedia, User:Netforcarbon. I hope you like it here. My point is that if you want your content to be seen and read, then you might be better off integrating it into an existing article rather than creating a new one from scratch. I don't know if you have discovered the page view graphs yet? You can access it from the top "view history" tab. In general, I recommend to new Wikipedia editors to rather improve and enrich existing articles with higher pageviews rather than focusing on low pageview articles or even completely new articles. You have more impact with the high pageview articles. Also, if climate finance already has quite low pageviews (see here) then what makes you think that "climate finance in country X" would get any more pageviews? EMsmile (talk) 15:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Netforcarbon and Will (Wiki Ed). If you are interested, I think a discussion about the campaign on the wp:WikiProject Climate Change talk page could be fruitful. This would be a less stressful and more collaborative environment than AfD. One of my concerns at the moment is this and possibly other articles serving as an uncritical, promotional listing of things that governments and corporations have called climate finance. Unfortunately quite a few things that are labelled climate finance are greenwashing, fossil fuel subsidies in disguise, or just ineffective. If we could start with a broader conversation about your goals and your skillsets, we could help you with things like figuring out what sources to use and choosing high-impact articles to create/improve. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 21:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clayoquot Thanks for that recommendation - I'll post something soon. I also appreciate the greenwashing concern. I think this is exactly why we should be focusing on this area. Separating substantive climate change mitigation action from greenwashing is important. The funding element is also challenging, but its as important as any other kind of legislation. Thanks again! Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep because the US has such enormous financial clout that the topic seems to me to be notable. US policy and finance are both so influential there should be enough info for two articles. Although they will overlap somewhat not all policy is finance (for example policy can make regulations or diplomacy) and not all finance is policy (for example Tesla was only partly government funded - a lot was private, and much else is private finance e.g. 3 Mile Island). Chidgk1 (talk) 18:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Econofoods (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Sources on the page and in a WP:BEFORE do not meet WP:ORGCRIT. With only two locations I am unsure if press outside the local area could be found. CNMall41 (talk) 23:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrevan:, sorry, just seeing your comment now or would have pinged you earlier. The two you cited from The Register Mail are both about two local stores closing. In fact, they are basically the same (one from the employee perspective and one from the customer perspective). Neither meet WP:CORPDEPTH for the chain itself. The other two are business listings. Are there any references out there you found that meet WP:ORGCRIT?--CNMall41 (talk) 06:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I agree those sources might not meet a stricter standard, I think it meets GNG, along with the other local news already in the article, and I'm not sure that merging with Nash Finch or SpartanNash is necessary, but I can't see a full-scale delete beyond that merger, and I think other times when companies have been merged it's muddled up the history in a confusing way that could be resolved by treating as separate articles. A regional grocery chain with not a lot of stores can be notable with sourcing that describes it with a bit of narrative as these local stories do, through a local lens, but aren't ROUTINE or press releases. They describe the acquisition of the chain by Nash Finch. “When Nash-Finch came in, I was working in Monmouth. It was my day off and I got the call at home,” Cecil said. He said he started to suffer from burnout as Nash-Finch “dictated” ways of doing business that he didn’t agree with, such as selling select, rather than choice beef. “I was told they were doing less than half the business we were doing in ’98,” Cecil said of Econofoods when it closed. “It didn’t have to happen.” An unlikely place for business analysis perhaps, but there you go. The other one talks about consolidation in the market. This is corroborated by the business almanacs and Moody's listings and other stuff that come up on a Google Books search. As I said, I think it meets GNG, and I think more data could be found in Newspapers.com which has over 20,000 results in Iowa, but I'm at a keep because I believe GNG-level sourcing exists and more could be found for an article here. Andre🚐 06:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point. However, as a company, it must meet the standards for companies and do not feel that these references do. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a stricter WP:SNG standard for what is presumed notable, but any article is notable if it meets WP:GNG. Unless that has changed, the stricter standard is supplemental. Besides which, the purpose is to keep out promotional articles, not the history of regional supermarkets. Notability as a guideline has interpretation, but it's not WP:IAR to use GNG instead of CORP, because it's a supplemental presumption guideline that doesn't obviate GNG. You are free to still opine delete here of course. WP:N: A topic is presumed to merit an article if: It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG) Emphasis mine.Andre🚐 05:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unless that has changed" - That has not changed so you are quoting the SNG and GNG guidelines correctly. It is interesting as I argued this same contention (the one you present here) years ago but the company deletion discussions have, at least for the last four or five years, applied NCORP over GNG which is the reason for my contention to delete this page. Would be interesting to get a consensus otherwise as it would allow for keeping some pages that would be borderline under NCORP but likely meet GNG. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty much guaranteed that when an editor starts arguing to ignore NCORP, its an acknowledgement that the topic fails the criteria. HighKing++ 13:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per what Andre said. WiinterU 04:46, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. Also relevant that both Keep !voters acknowledge that the sourcing fails NCORP HighKing++ 13:11, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to draft to provide time for further research and potential expansion. Newspapers.com returns 34,082 matches for "Econofoods", though at first glance many are advertisements and many are for uses other than this subject. Nonetheless, some are substantive articles addressing this article subject, and a deeper dive might uncover enough to meet NCORP. BD2412 T 00:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GreenPark Christian Academy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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One-line stub for an obscure religious private school in St. Louis. The only references are non-independent. I wouldn't really call this to be significant coverage. This makes a passing mention of the school closing in 2010. There's a couple sentences here about the school closing, but that article is about a different entity. I just don't see a pass of WP:NSCHOOL here; it says something about the article subject that this school has apparently been closed for over 15 years and our article on it has not been updated with that information. Hog Farm Talk 04:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Martyr Helmet Dêraluk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article describes what was likely a minor skirmish and says of it “There is no independent confirmation from reliable sources.” Which means we should not have an article on it. Mccapra (talk) 03:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sky FRU (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While the article itself only cites primary sources, I still tried to look for the sources for this subject and there are some but they are about announcements regarding this airline. This fails WP:N. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theodor-Fliedner-Gymnasium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:TNT. Article created October 2024. Retrieval date on some sources showing 2019. It would just take a lot of time to go through each source. It would be more effective to get of it, then someone else can re-create it if needed. Created and edited upon by a problematic AI injector. See the talk page and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Possible_academic_boosterism_ref_spamming. Graywalls (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::This not correct. It is a proper translation following standard Wiki guidelines, not an AI-generated text. Please avoid these unfounded accusations. If you have concerns, consider addressing them constructively rather than through repeated reverts and deletion sprees. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::Both you and user Graywalls are jointly engaging in actions that appear to target and silence the main profile in the context of constructive talks. If the profile is blocked, any engagement can only occur through IPs, which may change frequently due to being away from home – this is a technical matter, not intentional. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:::These highly immature blocking actions, especially in the context of content-driven opinions that seek to solve the situation, constitute bullying, harassment, and silencing. 185.137.36.82 (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are allowed to dispute your block at your account's talk page. Evading it goes against policy and will result only in more blocks. Flounder fillet (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
E-Safety Authority (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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E-safety authority, has not been formally established. While it has been approved in a cabinet meeting, this does not constitute actual creation. Wikibear47 (talk) 03:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of South Korea, Ankara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG. Only 2 primary sources provided. A search for sources found incidents like this which don't really add to notability. https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/south-korean-ambassador-jeong-yeondoo-prefers-yht-for-ankara-trip-539/ LibStar (talk) 03:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I did a source review, and they have nothing to do with the embassy. The first is about the relations in general, including newer developments such as "In January 2023, a Korean company signed a contract with Turkey for the supply of 101 Altay tank power packs and main parts". The second source is about Ambassador Jeong praising Turkish cuisine. The third is about a ceremony at the Turks Who Fought in Korea Monument. None of them can be construed to support notability for the physical embassy in any way. Geschichte (talk) 07:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tarita Botsman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2022. Article is largely cited to primary and non-independent sources. Not clear that the subject meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, or WP:SINGER. 4meter4 (talk) 02:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Taylor Rousseau Grigg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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May not meet WP:ENT or WP:SIGCOV. Minimal sourcing outside of her death. TJMSmith (talk) 01:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Glacier Bancorp (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:NCORP. Most sources are routine. Badbluebus (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Date Brokerage Analyst Name Action Rating Price Target Upside/Downside on Report Date Details
10/2/2024 Raymond James Boost Target Outperform ➝ Outperform $45.00 ➝ $48.00 +7.55% View Report Details
9/20/2024 Truist Securities Boost Target Hold ➝ Hold $46.00 ➝ $50.00 +6.68% View Report Details
8/27/2024 Piper Sandler Reiterated Rating Neutral ➝ Neutral $38.00 ➝ $38.00 -17.84% View Report Details
4/23/2024 Stephens Lower Target Equal Weight ➝ Equal Weight $44.00 ➝ $40.00 +4.49% View Report Details
4/22/2024 DA Davidson Lower Target Buy ➝ Buy $48.00 ➝ $45.00 +25.28% View Report Details

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1937 State Park (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An article that was copied and pasted from draftspace. A WP:BEFORE search reveals links about the band but not the song. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mitch Anderson (director) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of significant coverage. I came across the article when nominating several of his directed films for deletion (see 1, 2, 3), and subsequent searches for him specifically have failed to turn up more sources, even after narrowing the search terms to avoid other Mitch Andersons. His IMDb credits are relatively light, supporting the idea that there is likely no significant coverage of him or his work. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Very minimal coverage now in the article, does not seem to meet notability. I can't find anything about this person, also his personal website appears to be inactive. Trex32 (talk) 02:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict in the Neutral Zone of Junik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article only has two citations and it's for the background, which is basically copied what is already in the Neutral Zone of Junik. There's nothing that supports any of the text in the article. Also looks like a WP:POVFORK of Neutral Zone of Junik and Kachak Movement.

I tried to move it to draft but it was disallowed as this same article was already created by another editor and recently moved to draftspace by @Joy: Draft:Conflict in the Neutral Zone of Junik. Griboski (talk) 01:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With title as contrived as this (0 hits in a Google Books search), this looks like Hellenistic dude and Based Drenica are some form of a WP:SOCK policy violation.
Maybe the same guy who's been pushing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian Resistance in Yugoslavia and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian–Yugoslav conflict and whatever other recent spate of nonsense? That was NormalguyfromUK, who was blocked and locked already.
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It seems more than a tad suspect that Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of NormalguyfromUK already contains 2 other usernames called "Based" something. --Joy (talk) 15:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is strange. I assume CU would have found that in the last SPI entry. But as was pointed out there, for most of them it seems like they are just friends coordinating off-wiki on TikTok and Discord. There is a constant fresh stream of accounts creating these bad Albanian POV battle articles.
@Demetrios1993: interestingly pointed out how a recent academic paper mentioned one of these accounts was massively creating AI-generated articles. --Griboski (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Griboski and Joy: I began an SPI on Based Drenica; they appear to be a sockpuppet of indefinitely blocked Albanian atdhetar. Demetrios1993 (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, like I said, a violation of the sockpuppetry policy, the parts about promoting your cause off-wiki. The standard for handling that should be in line with the topic area this is in. --Joy (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]